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|  Subject: Re: Are Libertarians "Anarchists"?  Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:48 am | |
| | NoDeity wrote: | | CovOps wrote: | | NoDeity wrote: | | Sure. Let's kill people so that people don't get killed. |
That's also inaccurate. More like, let's kill the killers, so that people don't get killed. |
Show me a war in which only the killers get killed. How much "collateral damage" is acceptable in your fucking revolution? |
There is no war in which only the killers get killed. So stop demanding the impossible. Better yet, why don't you show me a slave society where people don't get killed. What about the collateral damage there? What about the millions of people enslaved that want to be free but can't without first killing the killers. Will you carry the moral responsibility for depriving them of their freedom because you wouldn't O.K. the necessary means? Finally, a relatively short war liberates millions, with only a minority of casualties. In terms of ratios, it's hardly significant. Whereas your position is the very opposite: You'd rather spare the minority, while enslaving the vast majority. Perhaps you should reconsider...
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| | Subject: Re: Are Libertarians "Anarchists"? Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:03 am | |
| | NoDeity wrote: | | Don't bother to answer. You guys are no better than that which you supposedly oppose. I'll waste no more of my time here. |
False! As elaborated above!
Fine, we wouldn't want to waste your precious time.
I guess no god damn "fucking revolution" is gonna keep NoDeity away from his pacifism, his beer and his bongo drums!
Dammit!
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| | Subject: Re: Are Libertarians "Anarchists"? Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:20 pm | |
| Oh and in case you should revisit, here's a refresher for you:
Pacifism
The necessary consequence of man's right to life is his right to self-defense. In a civilized society, force may be used only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use. All the reasons which make the initiation of physical force an evil, make the retaliatory use of physical force a moral imperative.
If some "pacifist" society renounced the retaliatory use of force, it would be left helplessly at the mercy of the first thug who decided to be immoral. Such a society would achieve the opposite of its intention: instead of abolishing evil, it would encourage and reward it.
"The Nature of Government," The Virtue of Selfishness, 108.
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| | Subject: In addition: Talk about your sidekicks contradiction... Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:03 am | |
| In addition: Talk about your sidekick's contradiction...
http://francoistremblay.wordpress.com/2007/06/04/happy-killdozer-day/
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