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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:00 pm

This is quite a priceless thread! The images at the beginning, in particular page 3-4, are genius. I've actually saved them in my computer so I can masturbate to them whenever I feel the urge for something with an edge.

I basically only joined the forum to say that, I hope you're proud. I also found Convops reply regarding morality not being subjective quite interesting, I'm however not sure which threads on the forum you are referring to - any links?

Are perhaps both you C and N former victims of the evil Stefan Molyneux? Did he release his fury on you? And how did that make you feel? Because I do hope you guys know that whenever you feel a little sad, whenever you feel a little depressed, a little low on life, you can always...always... MAKE A SKYPE CALL TO STEF AND TALK IT OUT!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:28 pm

LOL!

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This is quite a priceless thread!

You're correct! And we are pleased with your accurate assessment! Wink

The images at the beginning, in particular page 3-4, are genius.

Excellent perception!

I've actually saved them in my computer so I can masturbate to them whenever I feel the urge for something with an edge.



I basically only joined the forum to say that, I hope you're proud.

We are!

I also found Convops reply regarding morality not being subjective quite interesting, I'm however not sure which threads on the forum you are referring to - any links?

Nemo will probably know better than I do, so he can post them when he returns...


Are perhaps both you C and N former victims of the evil Stefan Molyneux?

Absolutely!

Did he release his fury on you?

Not a chance in hell! He was too intimidated. Actually, I was the first person on that forum to openly challenge MolyFuck to a public debate, even started the thread for it, waiting for him to turn up, but he was too chicken. Also was the first to go on an official strike and into self-imposed exile, until they gave me the humor Forum, which they didn't have before... needless to say, I got my Forum on that board!
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And how did that make you feel? Because I do hope you guys know that whenever you feel a little sad, whenever you feel a little depressed, a little low on life, you can always...always... MAKE A SKYPE CALL TO STEF AND TALK IT OUT!!!

lol!

Would consider doing it, but then Stealth CultishStew would be polluting my visual environment and I just can't have that! My delicate complexion simply couldn't handle it and I'd need a session of dermabrasion...

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:16 pm

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I literally feel like I'm Alice sitting at the table of the Mad Hatter.

Oh, you're Alice alright, but without the Mad Hatter...

The rest is solely, just between your ears...

Jessica moment

It's what passes for 'reasoning,' among the youngsters these days...

Oh man
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:20 pm

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I also found Convops reply regarding morality not being subjective quite interesting, I'm however not sure which threads on the forum you are referring to - any links?
See this for starters...

http://ancaps.super-forum.net/t2853-putty-tat-vs-gee-re-proof-and-the-argument-from-morality?highlight=morality
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:04 am

Here's a bit:

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Review
"...Biddle demolishes the conventional wisdom that holds sacrifice as a moral ideal and offers...a compelling alternative." -- Center for the Advancement of Capitalism

"...challenging, informative, thoughtful.... Loving Life is very highly recommended reading...." -- Midwest Book Review

"...clear, simple, and...succinct.... [Biddle] performs effectively the difficult task of taking abstract moral principles and concretizing them...." -- The Intellectual Activist

"From start to finish, Loving Life engages the reader with its lively conversational style." -- The Ayn Rand Bookstore
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Loving Life demonstrates that morality is a matter not of divine revelation or social convention or personal opinion -- but, rather, of the factual requirements of human life and happiness. Biddle shows how a true morality is derived logically from observable facts, what in essence such a morality demands, and why it is a matter of pure self-interest.

http://www.amazon.com/Loving-Life-Morality-Self-Interest-Support/dp/0971373701


As well as the usual goodness here:

'The Virtue of Selfishness' by Ayn Rand

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As the title suggests this is going to be an actual review of the _Virtue of Selfishness_ and not another argument for or against Miss Rand's thesis. I'm assuming here that you, as a potential reader, would possibly like to know a little something about what the book contains. If so, read on.

Objectivism, the philosophy which Ayn Rand originated, is a full system of thought. This book presents a part of that system, its ethics. And here, as with the other books Miss Rand has written, her thesis is controversial, strikingly original and brilliantly articulated. The book, for instance, begins with the following premise:

"Ethics is _not_ a mystic fantasy--nor a social convention--nor a dispensable, subjective luxury. . . . Ethics is an _objective necessity of man's survival_--not by the grace of the supernatural nor of your neighbors nor of your whims, but by the grace of reality and the nature of life."

This conception of ethics as a _this-worldly, objective need of man determined by reality and not by some ruling consciousness_ is virtually unwarranted in the history of philosophy. Her conclusions are just as controversial however--and, for proof, read the following passage (which shows the difference between the Objectivist ethics and that of every other system known to mankind):

"Every human being is an end in himself, not the means to the ends or the welfare of others," says Miss Rand, "and therefore, man must live for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself."

In other words, Rand advocates _rational selfishness_. Now, what does this mean or entail--and how does one achieve it? These are the questions that the book answers (and which the other reviews posted at this site most certainly do not). If you would like to find out those answers, I highly recommend you read this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Virtue-Selfishness-Signet-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451163931/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327741316&sr=1-2
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:52 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:10 pm

Laughing face


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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:47 pm

@CovOps wrote:
Oh dear...

So there's this really nice guy called QuestEon.

Who just kick-started his own forum...

That's all well and good, until I read:

...this mind-blowing statement:

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Mr. Molyneux and his family deserve respect...

Hey! You catch more flies with honey than vinegar!

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Or this nonsense:

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In fact, it was Conrad who kept LiMi from becoming a hate site by making it inhospitable for those who only had hate to offer. And he did it all--not through rules, peer pressure, and bans--but kindness and humor.

What a lot of bullshit!

Conrad was/is a censorship wielding, power-lusting-mini-Moly and with everything that this implies...

He just couldn't pull it off properly!

Even in the final shutting down of LM post he wrote:

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I am not motivated to moderate it anymore.

(Read: CENSOR!)

Seems QuestEon doesn't read him, as well as we do...

Still, we'll plug him all the same, even if he does deserve a good bitch-slap around the ears...

With respect, of course...

http://www.fdrliberated.com/forum/index.php

Also, in his own way, Conrad loves you.

Thanks for the plug!

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:44 pm

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Hey! You catch more flies with honey than vinegar!

You should take a leaf out of Nietzsche who said:
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Flee, my friend, into your solitude: I see you stung all over by the poisonous flies. Flee to where a rough, strong breeze blows!

Flee into your solitude! you have lived too closely to the small and the pitiful. Flee from their invisible vengeance! For you they have nothing but vengeance.

No longer raise your arm against them! They are innumerable, and it is not your job to be a flyswatter.

http://praxeology.net/zara2.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:06 pm

@CovOps wrote:
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Hey! You catch more flies with honey than vinegar!

You should take a leaf out of Nietzsche who said:
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Flee, my friend, into your solitude: I see you stung all over by the poisonous flies. Flee to where a rough, strong breeze blows!

Flee into your solitude! you have lived too closely to the small and the pitiful. Flee from their invisible vengeance! For you they have nothing but vengeance.

No longer raise your arm against them! They are innumerable, and it is not your job to be a flyswatter.

http://praxeology.net/zara2.htm

LOL

Nice. I couldn't possibly top that! I bow to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:01 am

Better than good

Though no need to bow...

A cash equivalent will do...

(Small denominations of course... but no Euros...)

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:21 am

LOL!

I just had to throw this crap in too:



An Open Letter to Stefan Molyneux and Other Anti-Feminists



Stefan Molyneux’s recent video, a defense of his statement that “feminism is socialism with panties” (from which he takes his title) is not so much an enlightening philosophical speech as an ill-informed rant. The title of the video is intellectually dishonest, dismissing generations of women and men struggling for equality as panty-wearing socialists. The title panders to vulgar misogynists and is insulting to all women, feminists or not, and to anyone else who believes in equality between the sexes. The ideas expressed in this video and other videos of his that discuss feminism in a negative way are not only inaccurate but also dangerous, negatively influencing society’s perception of what feminism really is.



Because Molyneux’s anti-feminist views are unfortunately shared by many libertarian men and some libertarian women, we think it is important to take a stand and point out what is wrong and misguided about these views. Each one of the individuals signing this document has seen libertarian and conservative men attacking feminism without knowing what it means; men who have read nothing more than a few newspapers articles or anti-feminist rants by others and have no idea of feminism’s rich and varied history. Their views, founded on little more than opinion, are merely knee-jerk “politically incorrect” responses that lack critical thinking and thoughtful analysis.



Anti-feminist libertarian and conservative comments abound on Facebook and other social media. These include the usual clichés such as “man-hater,” and “feminazis” as well as such claims as, for example, “feminists are so trapped in their victimhood thinking that they see potential male oppressors everywhere and blame everything that is wrong with their lives on ‘sexism’ and ‘patriarchy.’” Men who are supportive of feminist concerns are attacked as “little wussy boys” and “worse” than the feminists themselves. One man even called the Association of Libertarian Feminists an “oxymoron.” These childish and uninformed remarks by anti-feminist men not only show how little they know about feminism, but how little regard they have for women and women’s rights.



Some anti-feminists even call feminism “collectivist” because it is a movement. This is a strange misuse of the term. They confuse “collective action” with “collectivism.” The former simply means individuals working together for a common purpose, as for example, libertarianism or abolitionism. The philosophy of “collectivism” says that group goals are more important than individual goals. But the raison d'etre of feminism is to achieve equal individual rights for every woman; to allow individual women to pursue their lives as they see fit rather than submit to cultural stereotypes.

Feminism is, by common definition, “the belief that women and men are equal and should be equally valued as human beings and have equal rights.” From a libertarian point of view, this stance should not be in the least controversial since libertarians also believe in equal rights for all. Indeed, given this definition of feminism, all libertarians, if they are consistent, should also be feminists. This definition is the essence of feminism to which every stripe of feminist from Marxist to libertarian, from radical to liberal, will agree. What feminists differ upon is how to achieve this goal of equality and equal rights. But the anti-feminist libertarians, knowing little about the wide range of views within feminism, selectively choose those feminist views they find abhorrent and attack those views as if they represented all of feminism. Yet when liberals do the same to libertarians, misrepresenting a few of the most uncompassionate as representative of the whole, these same anti-feminist libertarians howl. This is an inconsistent, hypocritical, and unfair treatment of both of these rich and vibrant intellectual traditions.



Molyneux is only the latest in a long line of these uncritical anti-feminists. We use his videos as a starting point for analysis only because he is currently one of the most visible anti-feminist libertarians. Like other anti-feminists, he fails to actually define feminism before he attacks. He simply implies that the ones he selectively chooses to talk about constitute feminism. Though Molyneux admits it isn’t accurate to say that all feminists are socialists, he still defends his statement that “feminism is socialism with panties” and continues to talk as if all feminists are indeed socialists. This is more than an offensive accusation unsupported by sound reasoning; it represents the kind of sexist thinking feminism tries to combat. By using this sleight-of-hand, he continues to encourage his listeners to systematically categorize all "feminist" concerns as pitiful socialist garbage to be derided and dismissed.



In representing feminism as a primarily socialist-dominated movement, Molyneux ignores feminists of any other political ideology, including a long history of individualist feminists. His definition of socialism is as unclear as his definition of feminism; he uses the term interchangeably with “Marxism” without qualifying exactly what kind of socialists he is accusing feminists of being. What is clear is his belief that socialists of any kind are unappealing and deserving of ridicule.



Molyneux also uses the term “gender” incorrectly. He talks about the “two genders” but “gender” is not interchangeable with “sex.” Social scientists generally define “gender” in terms of psychological factors, i.e., societal views of gender, one’s self-perception, etc. In fact there is a whole range of non-binary gender perceptions; including “transgender” people who do not fit into the standard “male” and “female” categories. Even the term “sex,” which refers to anatomical distinctions, is more complex than simply “male” and “female” because some people are “intersex” with physiological elements of both female and male reproductive characteristics. These people may call themselves “male” or “female” for convenience but many do not feel comfortable doing so.

There is a belief among such anti-feminists that feminism is inherently sexist because it emphasizes women. This is like saying that those who oppose discrimination against people of color are racists. Such anti-feminist thinking then assumes that women must desire preferential treatment. This is a typical claim made by anti-feminist men in articles and posts in social media, couched under the misdirecting plea, “but we’re all individuals.” It is similar to the claim that LGBTQ folks want preferential treatment simply because they want the same marriage rights as anyone else. Yet it is important to note that it is not women who have created the gender rights gap; it is a culture and society that has long seen women as secondary to men. Both culture and the government have been the biggest challenges feminists have faced in seeking equality. Government, reflecting the historical cultural prejudices against women, has enforced laws (opinions backed with guns, as Molyneux muses) against women since the beginning of the United States. Feminists, in working for equality, are therefore not working to support the state but rather desire to change it in order to eliminate the need for feminism. However, if libertarians categorically reject every attempt to challenge the presence of privilege in our culture, we should not be too shocked when feminists believe that the force of law is required to create a more humane and bearable space in which to exist.



Contrary to what the anti-feminists such as Molyneux claim, feminists have in fact played a major role in some of the most significant triumphs for individual liberty against state and private aggression in the last two centuries. In the 19th century, they were in the forefront of major movements for individual freedom, including abolitionism, suffrage for women, individual conscience in regard to religion and sexual activity, and the protection of minority rights. Every woman today who has a college education, owns property, or votes can thank these feminists. In the 20th century, feminists were in the forefront of not only the vote for women and the civil rights movement, but also in the fight against discriminatory laws that kept women from having credit in their own name, police policies that treat victims of rape and domestic abuse as responsible for their own victimization, actions and laws that harm people whose identities, sexual preferences, and orientations do not match the mainstream, and let us not forget reproductive freedom!



The radical feminist activists that Molyneux and other anti-feminists so unthinkingly sneer at have almost always been primarily concerned with challenging and resisting patriarchal laws—abortion laws, rather famously—and with building non-state grassroots institutions (e.g., consciousness raising groups, battered women's shelters, rape crisis centers, underground abortion networks, women's self-help clinics, and an array of critical “awareness”/anti-sexist cultural campaigns and groups), a number of which, especially the medically-focused efforts, were in fact constantly targeted by the regulatory state for criminalization and destruction.



In his “feminists are socialists in panties” video, Molyneux states that feminists are state-serving “creatures” and “Frankensteins,” whose primary agenda is receiving preferential treatment from the government and society, an erroneous and insulting view. He commits the error that Frédéric Bastiat defines as the core error of socialists, by “confusing the distinction between government and society.” He misrepresents the feminist stance as categorically anti-family and requiring state intervention to fulfill. No matter that many feminists have actually long discussed how to apply their feminist views to marriage and family, with the intent to raise children in a non-stereotypical way that affords them the richest opportunities as adults. Their aim is not to raise children through the state as Plato asserted, but typically to raise them healthfully in an individual family with two parents. Only a handful of feminists have actually seriously talked about dismantling the family, primarily during the Second Wave, contrary to what anti-feminists like Molyneux claim.



Molyneux portrays feminists as ruthless women, quick to cut each other down and unwilling to support successful women who deviate from the underlying socialist ideology of feminism. He claims that this is why feminists never discuss Ayn Rand or Margaret Thatcher, who he sees as “neo-conservatives” that are “anti-government” and therefore can be dismissed. In actuality, Rand, is not a neo-conservative; her importance for women has even led to a scholarly book, Feminist Interpretations of Ayn Rand, published by a prestigious and well-known university press. In his rant against “ruthless” feminists, Molyneux even implies that because they did not rally to the cause of Bachmann’s candidacy that this is further proof of their cutthroat ideology. He thus implies that women should unconditionally support and praise each other despite differences in political views, even when the women themselves hold anti-feminist positions. The fact that Molyneux himself does nothing of the sort—he frequently attacks Ron Paul, a man, for example—is apparently beside the point. But unbeknownst to Molyneux, many feminists did in fact defend Bachmann, Clinton, and Palin from charges that veered from political disagreement to overt sexist dismissal.



In his video “The Life and Death of Radical Feminism,” Molyneux propounds the belligerently conservative argument that women taking on paid jobs won’t spend enough time with their children and thus will harm their development. This argument is fallacious on several grounds. First, it mysteriously leaves out one parent from the equation—the father. In fact, social science research shows that fathers have considerable impact on their children and that more interaction with their children is desirable. Second, there is a copious social science literature showing that children are not harmed when the mother works outside the home. A more important factor is whether the mother is satisfied with her situation, whether working outside the home or within. Third, it denies individual autonomy to women, chastising them for wanting to have a life or career outside the home and asserting that they should sacrifice their aspirations in order to allegedly achieve anti-authoritarian kids. Once again, this bears no resemblance to actual psychological research findings. The factors that have the most impact on authoritarian or anti-authoritarian views in children are warmth and non-punitive childrearing methods that teach empathy, not whether or not the mother stays at home. To blame moms for everything bad that happens to the children is yet another example of not only sexism but outright misogyny.



Molyneux, like many conservatives, seems to think that the 1950s was a golden age for families. The idea that the 1950s nuclear family was a model for liberated childhood or somehow ushered in the social movements of the 1960s is simply bizarre. Spanking, the abusive disciplinary action that Molyneux abhors, was far more prevalent in the 50s than it is now. In the 1950s, the spanking rate was 99%; the rate has been going down ever since. Isn’t this a curiously contradictory view? Furthermore, in the books and research about the student movements of the 60s, the main correlation between activism and parenting was having a parent who was also a political or social activist, not having a traditional nuclear family.





Anti-feminists have no idea what feminists really want. Feminists are not women who want to be treated as men. Feminists are people who want to be treated as people, people who should not be discriminated against. Feminism isn’t socialism. Feminism is actually more about individualism and the desire to be evaluated based on one’s merit’s and not on one’s sex or gender.



Yes, there are feminists who are socialists. There are also feminists who are anarchists and feminists who are libertarians and feminists who really have no political ideology but know that they deserve to be treated equally to men. There are feminists who wear panties and feminists who wear boxers because not all feminists have an underwear preference and not all feminists are women.



The majority of Molyneux’s arguments against feminism as well as his accusation that “feminism is socialism with panties” are grounded in flawed and misogynistic rhetoric as are the arguments of other anti-feminists. In reality, feminism attracts a diverse group of people just as any other idea or philosophy does. To attempt to diminish the impact of feminism and redefine it as an objectionable philosophy is repugnant. The statement itself is inherently sexist and is the kind of thinking that feminism—true feminism—works to change.





This is a collective rejoinder written and agreed upon by the following signers...

More crap here: https://www.facebook.com/notes/association-of-libertarian-feminists/an-open-letter-to-stefan-molyneux-and-other-anti-feminists/10150546215122737

Devil lol


Those fucking, egalitarian, collectivist fucks!!!

Here, worthless cocksuckers, feast on this:

Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature by Murray N. Rothbard


http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard31.html
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:05 am

A Critique Of Molyneuvian Ethics ('universally preferable behavior')



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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:57 am

Stefan Molyneux and the Zeitgeist Movement



Our thanks goes out to Silo Bill!

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:23 pm

OK, another reminder for all you loaded ancaps out there:

Go spend some money in the molyfuck's shop!

Here: http://www.cafepress.com.au/fdrcultwatch
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Sun May 20, 2012 4:23 am

More lame-ass shit from that lowlife conman, Molyneux...

Here's the context:

It takes more work than that, Stefan Molyneux


http://sebscogblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/it-takes-more-work-than-that-stefan.html

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Another member gets banned, another thread gets censored


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PostSubject: LOL: Pimping Stefan Molyneux on a hardcore Randroid site gets no reply    Wed May 23, 2012 8:54 am

LOL: Pimping Stefan Molyneux on a hardcore Randroid site gets no reply

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On the first day!

FAIL!

And rightly so...

MolyFuck should basically just stick to bullshitting kids, say 13-21 year-old...

And not go anywhere near, the more sophisticated and knowledgeable entities...

And which indeed he does...

"Great" strategy, shyster!

But mark my words, it's all gonna catch up with you!


http://www.solopassion.com/node/9141


PS. LOL, 4 days later, still no replies... it's over, LOL
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PostSubject: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:22 am

What is Stefan Molyneux So Afraid of?

By Michael McConkey
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...That he is free and entitled to exercise dictatorial control of discussion on his forum does not excuse him from being called a hypocrite in his constant and emphatic public declarations on the inviolability of the free and open discussion of the scientific method, and its culture of peer criticism.

His refusal to comment on my blog, where I may reply freely; his laboured reluctance to allow me to address the many foolish and erroneous statements about me and the article on his website (a matter, one fears, corrected more for a concern over optics than principles); the “memory hole” editing tactics identified by Sebastian and my brother; to say nothing of the unrelenting refusal to have an open discussion in front of his faithful followers with an authority on the genetic hereditary literature, to give a hearing to the other side; all comes together to form a distinctive pattern. And that pattern is not one that reveals a fearless champion of reason. I’ll leave it to the reader to conclude what the pattern does reveal.

http://michaelmcconkey.com/talk/what-is-stefan-molyneux-so-afraid-of/

G-o-o-o... Michael!

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:18 am

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:44 am

Is the cult leader Stefan Molyneux, responsible for the suicide of an FDR member?

My guess would be a definite yes! Chickens coming home to roost...

There seems to be a cover-up in the making already, with questions about the incident being immediately removed from Molyneux's FB page.

In a recent post, QuestEon from the FDR Liberated Forum, sums up the current events:

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It's been over a month since an FDR member took his own life. One would suppose that on the largest philosophy discussion in the world, a member or two would have publicly inquired about the incident, or at least offered his/her condolences. However there has been nothing.

It is possible that no one at FDR is aware of this event, although that possibility stretches my imagination beyond the breaking point. The easier supposition for me is that FDR--for its own financial/reputation benefit--has made every effort to dissociate itself from the tragedy.

I have heard that some people did ask about it on Molyneux's FB page, but the questions were immediately deleted. I am NOT asking anyone to troll FDR, but if you have noticed evidence of the alleged cover-up, specifically screenshots of inquiries that were deleted, I'll do a follow-up post about it on the blog side.

Clearly, no one has enough information to determine the degree of FDR's responsibility in the tragedy itself. However, the refusal to even mention that an ardent member took his own life, in the fear that it might cast a shadow on Molyneux's enterprise, appears to be a triumph of money over ethics. Since ethics is essence of Molyneux's world-view, I think that's something that needs to be addressed.

Thanks!

http://www.fdrliberated.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=0027744698f33873ae36580ea384dd59&topic=222.msg1601;topicseen#new



No wonder MolyFuck came snooping here just a few days ago... seeking to find out, if the info has leaked... so we had to ban/block him yet again.

Well, we did say here ages ago:






Told ya:


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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:46 am

@CovOps wrote:
Is the cult leader Stefan Molyneux, responsible for the suicide of an FDR member?
My guess would be no more than his religious parents, or the US Army he "served" in, or himself.

http://www.molyneuxrevealed.com/2012/06/suicide-caused-by-stefan-molyneux-and.html
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:29 am

It happened on MolyFuck's watch...

And within just a few months of joining...

The destructive new influence was overwhelming for the kid...

The isolation, loneliness, emotional pain and then *BANG!*
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux Cult Watch   Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:33 pm

Or as Log from Blammo at ASC aptly put it:
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One of the things that cults do is encourage you to abandon all other support structures such that the cult is the only thing you have left in your life.

Once that happens, they can abuse you as much as they like, and you either tuck tail and keep coming back for more, or you end up with nothing.

That's why anyone that tells you to cut off all your friends and family outside the cult deserves a big "fuck you". They're just setting you up to be their bitch later on.

And yes, Molyneux did tell him to do that, as he tells all of his cult followers. The guy told people to toss their former lives in the trash, and the new one he gives them to replace it with turned out to be a big pile of shit for the suicider.

And yes, he was apparently too stupid or lazy to do the same damned thing to his new cult and start over again with something else, but that doesn't change the strong probability that if he didn't feel like a giant ass for doing something incredibly dumb just because some guy on the Internet told him it was a good idea, he wouldn't have done the last incredibly dumb thing anyone can ever do.

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=24701;start=0
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