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PostSubject: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:05 am



I know I'm treading on dangerous ground here, but it's important we maintain a gold standard of truth. We cannot simply keep these discussions private if we are to produce a truly free society.

Please don't give this post a black flag, and I hope no one mises the point of this inquiry, assuming that I am attempting to fulfill some nefarious agenda. This is my window into the world of anarchism, and breaking it helps no one.



...okay, I'm done. Roast plz. And greet. Little bit of both. :p

(I am a statist but I enjoy fucking around on forums and discussing politics, so let's do those things)


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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:53 am

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Do Puns Violate the NAP?

Are you fucking kidding me?

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if we are to produce a truly free society.

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I am a statist

Last two are contradictory and incompatible.
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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:11 am

@CovOps wrote:


Are you fucking kidding me?

Yes.

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Last two are contradictory and incompatible.

Well, sure, first one was a joke. I do believe freedom is good, but I don't necessarily believe absolute freedom is possible (not even sure about desirable) because of the fact the freedom isn't just about what people won't do to you, but also what you're able to do.

Maybe that's semantics though. Certainly will have fun discussing this all with you. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:14 am

"Absolute" freedom?

WTF is that exactly?
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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:16 am

@CovOps wrote:
"Absolute" freedom?

WTF is that exactly?

When it's not even theoretically possible to be more free. Everyone already has all the freedom they could get even if there were different laws of physics.
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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:19 am

Not physics; freedom of action in a social context.
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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:40 am

Nemo wrote:
Not physics; freedom of action in a social context.

Sure.

I would say for anarchists there's not really a difference (morally) between the freedom someone gains by living in a society without taxation/force and the freedom someone might get by, say, that and being omnipotent. Which is what I was thinking of when I mentioned different laws of physics. For me, there is a difference between those things, and while I'd be hard-pressed to tell you how we could make omnipotence both a reality and not a moral nightmare (well, you could make it not a moral nightmare easily enough, I guess, but only if you assumed the omnipotent person or people voluntarily restricted themselves), social improvements like access to electricity (allowing people to have more "power" overall, I think) happened due to the coercion of the state--the restriction of freedom made people more free in the sense I'm describing. Which I think is to some degree a more real sense, but it's word choices, ultimately.


(Realized I forgot to put in an important pair of words in there, and so edited the post)


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PostSubject: Re: Do Puns Violate the NAP?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:32 am

Omnipotence is an impossibility.

Stop trafficking in fantasy...
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